Where do Value and Cost Meet in your Business Model?
This post comes out of a conversation that John and I had a while back. We thought it would make a good post here; so this is my attempt at ’summarizing’ the discussion.
We were discussing potential topics and sponsors for our podcast, The Flex Show and that led to a comment on pricing of various conference tickets. Obviously that is a topic important to John.
Jeffry Said:
I don’t have the magic wand to tell us where the value / cost line should meet. I do tend to agree that some conferences have crossed a line, where their cost no longer matches its value.
I think I read a blog post that made me think 360|Conferences was struggling with the same cost vs. value issue.
I was reading something about the down turn of the newspaper industry. A lot of people complaining about the downturn seem to say that the newspaper “business model” was to sell news to people. But, I read something that said the real business model was selling the access to people (community) to advertisers. It makes a lot of sense to me.
The [current] business model of The Flex Show is to sell our community to advertisers.
The [current] business model of Flextras is to sell software to the community. I worry it is not a long term sustainable approach, though. I believe the real profit benefit to customers is going to be selling access (support) to myself [and other Flextras employees. Plenty of companies (Redhat, MySQL) have had success with the "premium support" style models. A lot of my support option ideas don't apply to a company w/ no proven record and/or only one component, though. This comes back to my theories on the difference between digital / infinite goods and scarce goods. Many of these theories were fueled by reading techdirt commentaries.
I think the business model for a conference (such as 360|Flex) is to two fold. You sell access to the community to advertisers. And to attendees you sell access to the experts.
John responded:
We're actually in the opposite problem as some other conferences (IMO). We offer way more, but charge too little. We're realizing that we're so bent on two very counter ideas. We're obsessive about being less than everyone else, and equally obsessive about offering the most value. If we were wal-mart and conferences were made in China, that might not suck, but for Tom and I, it sucks.
We're not thinking of raising prices, but realize our current pricing model's biggest flaw is our price/attendee mix. we can't do enough shows at that level to really be profitable. beyond paying our phone bills, writing a check here and there, but nothing FT Salary level.
Yeah I agree. it's more about connecting sponsors to community, while providing community a reason to be there. That's what I'm hoping to help us figure out with The Flex Show. we've got a very targeted community, there has to be some one who wants to talk to them.
I dunno, but these topics rock!!
Jeff Responds
I'd always recommend focusing on adding value and less so on cost through the door. Companies who compete only on price die. Because there is always someone who can come in and do it cheaper. When I was doing focus groups for Flextras, no one blinked on pricing [as long as the components would help them get their job done].
I struggle with the difference between providing a discount (generally bad) and adding value (generally good). I’m pretty sure that providing the pre-conference day free to attendees is adding value. Most other conferences charge for such things. Charging extra for that day might cause backlash. But, I wonder if you offer a lower-priced 3 day pass for those that don’t want to / can’t make the pre-conference day? I’m not sure. I’m entering a realm where I don’t have experience to back me up; and I always have a sense of discomfort telling other people how to run their business.
Maybe we should turn this into an OurStartupStory post somehow.
John Responded:
Yup, exactly, wish we had realized it sooner, but yeah. We’ve woken up and realized low price is fine, but better value is better, and we have that in spades.
Shoot, Tom and I ran head first into a realm we had no experience with :) I actually prefer that, since experience leads to more of the same in my opinion, LOL
Jeff Responded
It is often hard to get out of the “more of the same” thinking, that is for sure. Reminds me a bit of Courtney Love’s now famous article about the music industry. Around that time she was quoted as saying she would hire non-entertainment lawyers who could offer a fresh view of the “indentured servitude” of musicians and songwriters. Hard to believe she wrote that 9 years ago.
And for our readers, here is the post.
